Senate Armed Services Committee and DADT Repeal (UPDATED)

Senate Armed Services Committee and DADT Repeal (UPDATED)

by: DocJess

Wed May 26, 2010 at 08:19:34 AM EDT


UPDATE 12:30 pm: Open Left is reporting that Ben Nelson is now a YES. 

Irrespective of the House vote, or the White House position, to get to the Senate floor, DADT repeal has to get past the Senate Armed Services Committee. Using data from Open Left and The Advocate, here’s where the list stands at this moment: ONE VOTE SHORT. (Democrats in blue, Republicans in red)

YES

Daniel Akaka (HI)
Evan Bayh (IN)
Mark Begich (AK)
Jeff Bingaman (NM)
Roland Burris (IL)
Susan Collins (ME)
Kay Hagan (NC)
Ted Kaufman (DE)
Carl Levin (MI) 
Joe Lieberman (CT)
Claire McCaskill (MO)          
Bill Nelson (FL)
Jack Reed (RI)
Mark Udall (CO) 

NO

Scott Brown (MA)
Richard Burr (NC)
Saxby Chambliss (GA)
Lindsey Graham (SC)
Jim Inhofe (OK)
George LeMieux (FL)
John McCain (AZ)
Jeff Sessions (AL)
John Thune (SD)
David Vitter (LA)
Jim Webb (VA)
Roger Wicker (MS) 

UNDECIDED

Robert C. Byrd (WV) 
Ben Nelson (NE) 

So, make a few calls. Send an email. Ask nicely, and make sure to accurately say where you’re from and who you are to avoid getting hauled into court

Update: Kendrick Meek’s campaign is asking if Crist and Rubio would end DADT. He has a petition to end Don’t Ask Don’t Tell here.

On Monday, the White House announced it would back a vote to repeal the Pentagon’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy which has prevented gays and lesbians from openly serving in the military for nearly two decades. In the past, both Governor Crist and Speaker Rubio have stood with the far right and opposed the repeal of this discriminatory policy that dishonors our men and women in uniform.

“Floridians deserve to know – Would Governor Crist and Speaker Rubio vote against the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” pending in Congress right now? Since 1994, over 13,000 service members have been discharged under this law.  For years, Kendrick has stood with our brave service members and fought to repeal this discriminatory policy. Now, Kendrick is the lone progressive running against two conservatives. Do the governor and Speaker Rubio still stand with the far right instead of our men and women in uniform?” asked Adam Sharon, Kendrick Meek For Florida communications director.

A Gallup poll released earlier this month found that 70 percent of Americans favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military.

 

DocJess :: Senate Armed Services Committee and DADT Repeal (UPDATED)

Follow Democratic Convention Watch on Facebook and Twitter. Iphone/Android apps available.

Tags: , , , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email


Senate Armed Services Committee and DADT Repeal (UPDATED) | 6 comments


by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • Sen Nelson a yes vote… (0.00 / 0) It apparently seems as though Senator Nelson (D-NE) is a yes vote. He is scheduled to announce later today. This is good news as this will get the amendment our of committee.  


    by: political22 @ Wed May 26, 2010 at 11:56:13 AM CDT

    by: you @ soon

    To post this comment click here:

    Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • Its official (0.00 / 0) The associated press is reporting Ben Nelson will support repeal.

    The legislation was a compromise between the White House and a small group of Democrats – including Levin and Lieberman – who fear that repeal efforts will be doomed if Republicans regain control of one or both houses of Congress after fall elections.

    The plan would overturn the “don’t ask, don’t tell” law but still allow the military to decide when and how to implement any changes to accommodate the new policy.

    Nelson said this caveat was key to his support because it “removes politics from the process” and ensures repeal is “consistent with military readiness and effectiveness.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201…

    Now if Senator Ben Nelson can support repeal of DADT shouldn’t Senator Jim Webb be able to support it as well? I think so. Of course Senator Webb is the same senator that after the win in Massachusetts said Democrats need to reevaluate the national mood on health care. Sometimes I wonder if it would just be better to have a Republican in that seat then I’d understand the opposition better.  


    by: political22 @ Wed May 26, 2010 at 12:43:53 PM CDT

    by: you @ soon

    To post this comment click here:

    Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • Webb (0.00 / 0) Webb is prior military. He understands what the military folks are up against in this debate. It’s not as simple as “well, 70% of the folks are for it”. If 70% of the military folks are against it, should it be imposed? What would be the rate of folks leaving the military? What is the housing (including the open bay showering going to be? Will you let females shower with males? Until you live in the close quarters that the military has, its a tougher call than right or wrong. It’s how do you do it as to not cause any problems. I’ve been to many Military boards. It’s a mix on the reaction and there are folks that are pretty hostile about not wanting gays in with them. Sad sexual orientation has to tear people apart. It’s not supposed to be what the military is concentrating and spending time on. 2 wars ongoing and the Korean peninsula about to erupt and they have to figure out how to house and calm folk’s concerns about gays openly serving. So are we going to start requiring folks to state they are gay or hetro when they join? All of this is absurd and I am rambling. LOL  I have served on joint country operations where the other country has gays serving, and they were on the operation with us. I don’t see a problem with it myself, but there are many in the military now that do. That’s all I’m trying to say….  


    by: MisterEd @ Wed May 26, 2010 at 13:00:17 PM CDT

    by: you @ soon

    To post this comment click here:

    Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • The compromise (0.00 / 0) The compromise we’ve arrived at makes sense to me. Repeal DADT in principle, but contingent on results from the military study.

    The people who are close to the yes/no line on either side right now all seem to be concerned with this compromise–some would like that report to come out first, others would like the policy change not to be contingent on it.

    It’s messy, but that’s politics. The good news is that it’s moving forward.


    by: SarahLawrence Scott @ Wed May 26, 2010 at 13:12:07 PM CDT [ Parent ]

    by: you @ soon

    To post this comment click here:

    Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • No excuse… (0.00 / 0) Its easy to say that this is Senator Webb addressing a serious military concern, but it reeks of political opportunism. Meaning its easy to prey on the minority votes in a reasonably conservative state.

    I’m not saying its going to be easy, but we don’t need a study to address this issue at all. It simply makes no sense. After all would we allow the same study and deliberation if the issue were at hand was race. I’m sure even you would say that would be unacceptable, but with sexual orientation the debate is somehow different? How so? Unlike desegregation homosexual members of the military are already integrated into the armed forces. All repeal of DADT would do is allow them to state they are gay.

    The one argument that always seems to be an issue is housing and for one I don’t think its really that big of a deal. Right now gay soldiers room with straight soldiers and it hardly seems to create massive social breakdowns in the military and many even tell their closet “battle buddy” they are gay. With that said the military is moving away from the “open bay” style of living and showering even in combat. Granted they are still close quarters, but aside from basic training and with few other exceptions most members of the military live in barracks where they have one other room mate and share a bathroom. This does not mean they shower together. In essence its no different than a mini apartment for most.

    Even in deployments for the most part military members quarters are relatively private with one or two other roommates and once again private accommodations for bathing. Honestly the public has a misconception that the military is a lot like Full Metal Jacket, and with very little exception its not.

    I do agree that some people maybe even a lot don’t think gays should be in, but replace this with race and then tell me you think we should slow down. I agree I don’t think the military should be focused on a DADT study right now the policy should go BECAUSE we are fighting two wars. The enactment of DADT has caused many qualified soldiers in the intelligence field to lose their job. These soldiers are the ones fluent in Korean, Arabic, Farsi, Chinese, etc. These are soldiers who have gone through extensive training and security background checks, but have been discharged simply because they have a boyfriend. Simply put DADT is putting our troops at risk in these wars because we don’t have the most qualified troops at our disposal.

    Now to say are we going to ask people coming in are they gay or straight is simply ludicrous. In fact this was the state of the military prior to the inception of DADT, but with repeal and implementation of allowing gays to serve openly will not somehow trigger a requirement to ask people their sexual orientation. One because it would be discriminatory and two it would serve no useful purpose.

    In the end its no excuse for Senator Webb to vote no on the bill to repeal DADT just because he “understands” the military, its been a longtime since he has served in any capacity in the armed forces and the times have long changed.
       


    by: political22 @ Wed May 26, 2010 at 13:45:57 PM CDT [ Parent ]

    by: you @ soon

    To post this comment click here:

    Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • Political22 (0.00 / 0) I agree with what you said, but, like yesterday, I would take it one step further. Or two….

    It doesn’t MATTER if “70% of military folks are against it” – the idea of being in the military is that you FOLLOW ORDERS.

    What MisterEd is actually citing is what is euphemistically called “breakdown of unit cohesion” — and it is EXACTLY the same argument that the military gave before units were desegregated, and before women were allowed to serve along with male troops…

    The idea about military men, women, whites, blacks, gays, straights is that they are NOT “men, women, whites, blacks, gays, straights” — they are AMERICANS who choose to serve their country in the face of wars on multiple fronts. People wiling to risk their lives so the rest of us can sleep more safely.

    What do these people think? That this will be the gay musical version of Private Benjamin and gays in the military will want to dress in drag, wear outrageous jewelry and look for a mate? HELL NO…I know gay men who served in Vietnam. They “soldiered” like everyone else – in the mud and the muck and the mire. They did their jobs. Sexual orientation does NOT dictate whether someone can fire a gun, march in formation, work military computer programs, fly planes, or anything else that the military does.  


    by: DocJess @ Wed May 26, 2010 at 16:22:25 PM CDT [ Parent ]

    by: you @ soon

    To post this comment click here:

    Otherwise click cancel.

  • You must enter a subject for your comment
  • Senate Armed Services Committee and DADT Repeal (UPDATED) | 6 comments

    This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.

    Leave a Reply

    Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

    You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>